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I did a couple videos on my youtube channel on choking that unfortunately had to be redone into a single video with so much walking on eggshells to shut down the comment section mafia that I felt the whole purpose was undermined. People felt I was being permissive but likely didn't hear me out to actually understand what I was saying so I will address it here.

I will start by stating plainly that choking people to any extent is never without risk of sudden death. Here are the ways that can happen:

1) Causing a blood clot to form or break free leading to a stroke
2) Rupturing an artery in the neck (more on this in a bit)
3) Triggering cardiac arrest
4) Triggering respiratory arrest
5) Causing an aneurysm
6) Rupturing an aneurysm
7) Vagus nerve stimulation can trigger a drop in BP

It's important to contextualize where people are coming from when they claim choking is safe. The BJJ and Judo communities tend to say that they get choked all the time without incident but this is unreliable anecdotal evidence (the lowest form on the hierarchy of evidence) and their comments misrepresent how much they actually get choked. When learning and drilling a choke we may put the pressure on for a couple seconds to ensure the technique is right but people are not repeatedly choking each other out or even getting anywhere close to that. In rolling we tap once we know a choke is good, same thing in a tournament. It's actually pretty rare that people go out in class or in competition. One of the few available studies was conducted on an online BJJ message board which is the worst way to conduct a study but that didn't stop BJJ publications to report on the findings as if they were fact rather than the random opinions of a comment section.

The kink community may be a better representation because choking for effect is more commonly the goal but most sources on the subject don't simply imply chokes are 100% safe, they outright say it and ignore the above mentioned risks.

On the flip side, however, it has been my impression that, particularly on artery ruptures, the medical community's views on the subject are based on instances of domestic violence rather than careful application of good technique. In fact there are very few studies available to fully understand the consequences of chokes which is largely due to the ethics surrounding doing such a study. Some research does suggest that choking does lead to brain injuries which can lead to cognitive impairment, anxiety, and depression. One study looking at college girls who reported being choked during sex showed minor signs of lowered mental acuity.

There is an ongoing mindset in our community that you can choke someone as much as you want as long as they don't go out, I disagree with this. When you hold a choke at a lighter level you inhibit the blood vessels leaving the brain but not the ones supplying blood. Anyone who has been choked will tell you that one of the symptoms of being choked is that the pressure in your head gets really high which can be one of the most intense parts of being choked. The strain on your veins and arteries can cause them to balloon leading to an aneurysm, meanwhile the blood trapped in your head becomes less and less oxygenated causing damage and your brain will tell your heart and lungs to work harder which can lead to cardiac fibrillation (meaning the heart freaks out and goes into a faulty rhythm which stops it from pumping effectively). This is called cardiac arrest and requires a defibrillator to stop. Most people don't just have one lying around.

Risk can be reduced. Dissection of the artery seems to be more of an issue of rubbing under tension from a hand on throat grip. Some BJJ influencers suggest turning the corner with your elbow in an RNC and while this may make it tighter on one side it can possibly increase the risk of arterial damage not to mention damage to the thyroid and trachea. The experience of passing out doesn't really change for the person going out so there's no reason to hold after they passout, this just increases the risk of complications. Likewise, the more someone is choked, especially in a single scene, the higher the risk.

So, for the prudes out there, no, I'm not going to say just don't do it as that won't convince everyone. I have stated the risks and those playing with choking may make a more informed decision about whether or not it's worth the risks to them. I will also say that the jobber is not the only one taking risk, there are legal ramifications if someone you were choking dies. Hopefully anyone doing this is CPR trained and would have no hesitation calling 911 if there is an emergency but you don't always know the quality of someone's character til they are faced with a medical emergency that can have legal repercussions for them.

While I predict that this blog will be met with heavy criticism I think this is important to say.

In the era of Grindr and Sniffies the gay world seems to have become obsessed with the sharing of photos of dicks and buttholes as if those really are the only things that matter anymore. While I get it to a point on those platforms meetfighters and globalfight and whatever other platforms are out there for fighters, the people who are on these sites are generally looking for niche play. I, for one, am a legit grappler and rarely incorporate sexual play in my meetups because wrestling is about wrestling for me. I just spent a week in SF wrestling nearly every day and I would finish rough sessions high and satisfied and my depression has been nearly non-existent in the days following those matches. One of them did have crotch smothering and was semi-sexual but I never even saw the other guy's dick or butthole. I can't be alone on this but really, on this platform, those photos are irrelevant to me. As a spandex fetishist I would much rather see a bulge than a naked cock 9 times out of 10.

The second point I want to make on this, which is arguably more important, is that there is the issue of consent here as well. You don't go up to random people and flash your junk at them in the mall, so why do it here? Would it be so difficult to ask someone IF they want to see your bits before you send them? I'm not a prude by any stretch, I actually may be kinkier than most of y'all, but in the kink community consent is highly emphasized. For me, if I want that kind of play with you I will let you know, there will be enthusiastic consent which is what you want to look for. This is not an old school sentiment, the dialogue on consent has come more into focus in the Me Too era. Flashing your junk at anyone and everyone you might be a little interested in speaks to how little you value your other traits which I am far more interested in. It's disrespectful to those you send your nudes and it can be seen as sexual harassment. If you want to know who is the conservative dinosaur with the dated sensitivities, it's those who don't understand or respect other's ability to say no, I don't want to see that yet.

I've been around for 20 years and that alone blows my mind. On top of that my experiences as a grappler are no where near what I want them to be. I didn't wrestle in school and I didn't start training BJJ till about 10 years ago and part of me is ashamed that in that time I've only achieved the rank of blue belt. Hell, at the time of this writing I only have 34 confirmed past opponents from here and that number is probably pretty close to the real number as far as people I've met online. It isn't so low by choice but more situation. I'm also shocked how few people in my area are actually active on here. For me, wrestling is very much so tied into my sense of well being. Training BJJ often times helped me fight off my depression and anxiety even when my body was creating limitations on how much I could roll.

This spring my knee was injured and I have, for the first time in my life, had to turn down people who were visiting despite how much I really wanted to roll with them. I've come to hate my job because at the end of a shift my knee is swollen and very stiff and I don't have a way of leaving for something which would allow me to heal. It's been two years since I've trained BJJ and almost as long since my last matches, or so it feels like. I'm, frankly not ok. At 39 I feel 40 coming on fast and I really want to go back and be 16 again so I can try out for my highschool wrestling team, I want to start BJJ in my freshman year of college, I want to build a positive relationship with cardiovascular and strength training. I want the wrestler's body and skill.

This ties in a lot with my last post where I discussed why I started my youtube channel and my frustrations with people on here. I want to be pushed and challenged by the wrestlers around me and it isn't the same rolling with straights in BJJ. It's not that I want to fuck everyone I roll with, I've only once had sex after rolling and as hot as it was, wrestling alone is the journey for me. Win or lose it's about that journey, the challenge, the oxytocin, and without it I fall apart. If I could make a living wrestling, I would.

This is why my depression has been deeper as of late than it ever has been. I am unable to do what I love for an indefinite time and this crushes my sense of identity. I want a good physique but I'm not motivated to exercise when all I can get is vanity points. I want to be in a big room with other wrestlers training in our singlets. I want the support of my team. I want to compete and actually win at tournaments. I want to get past my anxieties and eat consistently (yeah, not eating meals has become a huge problem for me) and I want to earn cauliflower ear.

So, that's where I am and why you haven't been hearing much from me lately.

This is one of those topics that maybe I will one day cover on my channel but I have to be careful there because I don't want to come across as kink shaming or telling people they are wrong for liking something. If it weren't for PWP, BGEast, LtsWrestle, etc I might not have become interested in wrestling as I am today. If you have seen me around then you probably know I love bodyscissors, bearhugs, chokes, etc and other than chokes the others aren't exactly used for submissions in legit submission wrestling as they take too much energy/strength or are low percentage... or too dangerous at times. All I'm saying here is that if it weren't for the pro/porn influence I probably wouldn't be here for better or worse. These things have their place but I do take issue over how they influence the people who make up this wrestling community.

The youtube wrestling class project I did over Covid was intended to help those who wanted help, change the perspective of those who are active wrestlers, and to answer questions for those who were seeking answers. I suppose I may never know if I made a meaningful difference for anyone and I have fallen off being active for many reasons, some injuries, a lot of work after buying my first house, kidney stones, and it wasn't a reciprocal process. I simply don't do well talking to a camera over a long period of time and the need to continue making content was becoming taxing. What I do feel I accomplished was being one of the only influencers who actually covered the basics. Fancy shit makes for much better click bait but that wasn't my goal. I wanted to give people everything they needed to be better than 99% of the people on this site. I think I did that but you can lead a horse to water, can't make them drink it. Getting good takes drilling, rolling, dedication, hard work and the longer I put myself in that position the more I saw that no one was actually going to follow the program in an effective way which would get them where I wanted them to be.

Then came the questions I got in emails, on here, etc and most of them were pointed back to something they saw on Naked Combat or WWE or some random porn company and I was left somewhat speechless. A lot of my answers ended up being that that would never work in a real match where you have a resisting partner. Open a new tab and go to your favorite porn wrestling video or WWE match and ask yourself, is this happening because the jobber is letting it happen? Most of the time the answer is very much so no. This is also why the word "promission" bothers me because the idea is that you actually submit using pro techniques BUT if the techniques weren't bullshit they would be adopted into submission already. BJJ and Submission Wrestling are living martial arts, people add to them all the time at a rate that makes effective training difficult. It won't be long before there is some kind of inverted buggy choke from north south and a top grappler will get caught off guard by it and lose his undefeated status. You can't prepare against something you have never seen before. Yes, a camel clutch is hard to get out of when you're cranking it on but good luck getting it on a BJJ blue belt, or even a white belt with one stripe.

But, people are just having fun, right? There's no harm, right?

Well, about a decade ago I rolled with a local guy who mostly did pro "and" submission. We met for coffee and got along fine and agreed to wrestle. We had agreed on rolling real submission, I made sure he knew to tap early and tap often but when we rolled he never tapped. Instead he "sold" the submissions as a pro wrestler would. I imagine you can see where this is going. We ended a little early and I woke up to the first and only bad review I have ever had on here. He was a different person altogether. Our reviews became a back and forth till the moderators on here blocked us from each other and removed the reviews. He has since deleted his profile and started a new one but I have no desire to give that another go. The point of all that was that in that case the influence of pro wrestling had lead to injury and hurt feelings.

You know, if it gets you off then it gets you off and it's not my place to say that's wrong but at times I think a reality check is needed. That being said my biggest issue with fake wrestling is that it over-saturates as people's primary influence. Look, wrestling is a tough sport and gay wrestling organizations don't really tend to last. San Francisco is losing their club I think this year, we lost ours in Seattle the year before I moved here and I don't know anyone with the drive, experience and willingness to start a new one. My husband wants to be trained like a soldier in boot camp, I want to be trained like a wrestler in college. I want that speed, strength, physique, skill but real wrestling isn't actually sexual when you're doing it and from what I've seen gay men mostly want their wrestling to be sexy, even when they are saying they don't want sex.

This disconnect between what wrestling is and the fantasy of wrestling keeps people from discovering why athletes love the sport. 80% of or society is overweight or obese and most of us, myself included, are not nearly as active as we should be. We should be taking an interest in real wrestling because we are a marginalized community who is viewed as weak by the straights. We have anxiety and depression, we don't eat well, we often don't connect with the people around us. We should be seriously training because it gives us goals, it challenges us, we meet new people, it humbles us, we get to accomplish great things, and if we want to be dominated we know who can do that for real.

If you get nothing else from this blog get this: real wrestling is a fantastic thing and if all you know is what was made to be jerk off material or entertainment for rednecks, branch out, give BJJ a try, start a club, join a club. The community can't be built by one guy with a camera, it starts with you becoming the best possible version of yourself and then bringing a friend along for the ride.

Thank you for reading,
humbly yours,
Chris

Admittedly, I don't get to play as much as I'd like to especially in terms of scissor play top or bottom. If life were a little more perfect I'd have a friend for scissoring, and one for scissoring me, or, better yet, someone like me who both gives and takes. That being said, there's kind of a vacuum when it comes to the subject of scissors and what is left is a free for all where everyone kind of does what they do and the results are mixed.

I titled this as "Scissors as BDSM" because I wanted to take this out of the wrestling context a bit and address scissors as their own kind of play because I think the way you apply them should be vastly different depending on the context.

I was very fortuitous to be able to take a break last week and travel to the east coast to suffer in someone's legs and it struck me that some discussion the structuring of a scissor scene was as needed as discussions on muscle development for scissors and scissor technique. I am in no way saying that the scene that I was involved in was bad, hell I had a scene which I topped in a week before which needed some fine tuning, and the guy I played with had a lot of what I look for in a good scissor top. What I want to touch on really comes down to the controversial subject of what makes for good BDSM. Heaven forbid anyone ever comment on what can make a scene better and what kills a scene. Within the leather community I've known many who have been publicly shamed for such efforts but, frankly, y'all need to shut up and listen for a second, put your egos aside, and hopefully you will learn something.

Most BDSM is a journey in which to top and the bottom partake of together. Over the years I've improperly communicated that what I personally seek is a top more preoccupied with what they are doing than my personal enjoyment but in hindsight that's kind of a misrepresentation, if not an overcompensation from what happens with the non-scissor fetishist trying to indulge me. I still don't need to be told that this is hot while barely being touched and this isn't foreplay for sex to me, this is BDSM and I am bottoming to the scene you are creating.

When creating a scene in BDSM the sub should communicate their wants at the beginning, their NEEDS (such as an adjustment to pace, a loosening of rope if circulation is an issue, etc) during, and feedback after. The top however is responsible with understanding the wants and needs of the sub, controlling headspace of the sub, and pushing the sub without crossing the line. This is a delicate balance for both, honestly. Look, being a sub is hard work, arguably harder than the Dom's role, however a good Dom/Top is charged with the hardest task of all which is READING THE SUB. A good sub communicates usually when it's too late to make a meaningful change to the pace of the scene, a good Dom reads the needs of the sub well before the sub gets to the point of saying out loud what is needed. This takes experience.... the experience which is lacking due to the rare nature of a scissor kink.

So, although it is disingenuous of me to say what does and what does not make for a great scissor scene, everyone is looking for something different after all, a few points which have come up in debate with myself and ribcrusher7 should be mentioned here:

1) You're not rolling, you do not have to prove you can tap your partner, you don't have to aim for the tightest squeeze possible.

2) A scissor scene is an endurance race, not a sprint. If you're meeting up with someone and this is all that is on your docket, you need to pace yourself. Utilizing knee ride, scorpion crush technique (not even to get to a moderate crush but just to conserve energy), using your body weight can keep your partner suffering while keeping gas in your own tank,

3) Certain positions will wear your partner out faster and not in a good way. If we're talking head scissors, pay attention to where the hard parts of your legs are hitting. You don't want to crush the trachea but the muscles on the back of the neck can also get worn out quickly. For bodyscissors, scissors from the guard and backmount are very strenuous on the ribs and pose the greatest risk for cartilage damage. Even without injury the ribs can get sore fast and your sub will be tapping to rib strain more than anything else which really may not be what you're after. Body triangles can create similar pressure. Honestly, I think you need to take some strong scissors to really understand what you're doing to your bottom.

4) For the body scissors, at least for me, there is a no-go position which is direct pressure right on the stomach organ, right where the ribs and the abdomen meet. This and the traditional scorpion crush position can induce vomiting. Yeah, for breath control it kinda is the best place to put your pressure but it can kill the scene fast.

5) Speaking of breath control, it's a lot more intense when pressure is applied to the body. Anticipate that your sub will need more time to recover and will panic faster.

6) Again, with breath control, hand over nose and mouth can be fun but you don't have to be aggressive and you don't have to smash your partner's cartilage. I shouldn't have to say that but apparently I do.

7) If you are trying to choke your partner, keep in mind that you should never try to do a wind choke as this can damage the trachea and other structures in the neck. You cannot choke the back of the neck. Never crank someone's neck for any reason. No, really, if you are successful they will become paralyzed, don't do it. If you want to know how to choke someone effectively and with the lowest chance of injury watch one of my many videos on chokes. Use a technique you actually know. Not all neck squeezes are good, many are very very bad.

8) Sadism is not about creating whatever stress floats your boat, that's abuse. Again, this is a conversation or journey you are taking with a partner. You want them to suffer, they want to suffer, but you are the director of that suffering. Understand that if your sub is in subspace verbal communication with be challenging for them and they will want to be polite to you and let you do their thing. Don't take that for granted. It is a responsibility you carry. Rather than trying to test them with maximum pressure alone, try finding the point where their hand gets ready to tap and hold that edge as long as you can. If they do tap see what happens if you just release a little rather than all the way. If they allow you to hold them there do and then slowly ramp up and see if you can push them a little further than you could before.

A big point I want to drive home is that odds are, you're strong enough to get a tap, especially if you use the scorpion crush technique, but that doesn't necessarily make for a good scene. Instead see if you can play based on the headspace you're trying to create in your sub. Make them panic just to say that you can but then back off a little to keep them on edge. Let them be afraid about what you're going to do next but don't wear them out by going 100% all the time. Mix up your positions. Maybe you focus on using your legs for breath control, maybe they are a tool of fear, maybe you want them in pain from time to time. It is totally a bdsm thing so don't think about it as a submission wrestling thing where you're trying to win a match because odds are, no one signed up for that.

I'd love to hear your thoughts on this and I hope it at the vary least gives a little perspective.

Chris