Gutpunching give/take/trade

Actually he jumped to the sadist conclusion. Perhaps because he thinks of gutpunching as a painful activity and therefore you like causing pain. One could make the same claim of boxers and MMA fighters with that criteria. There's a couple of modifiers he hadn't had the time yet to consider. first, no one is unwilling in this activity. second no one is out to injure anyone. . There are other factors but those two alone knock the sadist statement off the table.

Great points, Rt, thanks!

Fantasists….

I say we are agonophiliacs

Like the word. We get our aggressive fantasies out here and not in real life. All perfectly normal.

I say we are agonophiliacs

I'd say it depends more on how you classify yourself than what others would. Punching isn't always erotic and just for pain, some guys like to see how much they can take when flexed, more strength and physical than just giving/receiving pain. Others like the pain and want it to hurt.

Yes. I live for seeing how many hard punches I can take. Barefisted or gloved.

while erotic GP give/take can be enjoyable I tend to enjoy more sadomaso give/take situations

I think boxing and fighting encourages sadism and masochism on both sides. No pre-determined top/bottom. Just two men fighting.

I'm a sadist and into sadist vs sadist matches.

Hell yes! Thats why gut/belly/stomach punching is a turn-on and big event in da dungeon and BDSM lifestyle. I get a laff from the tards on here that say "Im not into gut P. or any fetish stuff". Its all a fetish if your not doing it for living. Its a "fetish" to them because its not their thing.

Like this. And we like the idea of masculinity put to the test.

You are correct!

Same here. Two sadists trying to prevail.

It depends on the reason why we do it in my case, for example, you don't want to hurt or feel pain when I give and take punches, even though I am aware that all this inevitably happens for me is a different way of using touch so much that during sex even if I am only active I quietly take punches in the stomach because for me it is a different way of being penetrated. and when I give them, it's a different way to penetrate. and anyway I don't think there is sadism as we don't like to give and suffer pain to the whole body, but only to the stomach, so I think things are separate. at least I think so.

I tend to agree with your penetration comment. I have often told others gut punching is like sex to me and I actually prefer that to sex.

I've not heard that sadism or masochism needs whole body focus. I don't imagine it does for a lot of people. I agree with the penetrate/penetrated analogy, yet have zero interest in anything other than sex with a woman (besides the GP thing). I guess you could call it "sexual polarity?" I think it has to do with interpretation of the male/female role, even if it's a same sex thing. I believe there are variations on bi-sexuality as well. I think that's what BDSM industry is about. I'm bi in the form of hetro and masochist, but the masochist part only involves a desire to be gut punished/punched, unless you throw in verbal humiliation into the mix, however, the humiliation feels like foreplay. Regarding pain, I want to feel it, but not be incapacitated by it.

Ide say we are agonophiliacs. Meaning we enjoy physical combat to a erotic degree. some of us prefer playful punching or pretend fighting. Some of us like to really hurt someone when gut punching. It's all based on the level of agonophilia

I really like your comment. And a few others on here as well. It's just about our varying degrees of agonophilia.
For me, I am a total masochist concerning gut punching. On these boards I am most drawn to the true sadists. The ones who really want to hurt someone when gut punching them. That's what I look for in good punchers/, the true sadists who are into giving stomach aches to other guys. The looks on their faces, knocking the wind out of them and making them bend over. Hitting them hard in the stomach to make it count. To give the pain.
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Though the term, agonophilia, is new to me, I do agree with you. When I started talking to other guys who were into gut/chest punching I was initially surprised that many of their motivations and reasons of why they liked it were different from my own. For me it’s about showing off how my abs can withstand a beating or for the competitiveness involved in trading punches. When I watch videos of other guys I don’t want to see someone caving in and moaning in pain. I’d rather see them take really hard hits while maintaining rocks solid abs. I know many other guys love to see the guy getting punched double over in pain. Some like it to the extreme of seeing the guy throw up from being punched. I’d definitely say those guys are sadists, but not so much for me and other guys who are like minded. And of course I’m not implying that one set of motivations is better than the other or superior in some way. I’m just saying that many of us just differ in that respect. Nothing wrong with being into S&M, but not all of us who enjoy gut punching would necessarily be checking that box.

Hi Guys,

I'm interested in your thoughts on something. The other day, I was chatting with a guy online and told him of my interest in punching guys. He said, "So, you're a sadist." His comment caught me off guard and left me feeling a bit unsettled, because I had never thought of myself in those terms. But, for me, there is an element in gutpunching where I enjoy seeing the pain on a guy's face and hearing his moans when he takes a punch to the stomach.

Does that make me (and, us) sadists?

Thanks for your opinions.

I enjoy working guys over in a more brutal session than an erotic one, but enjoy the latter periodically.

I enjoy BOTH. Although no one has conquered my gut. YET

I love your comment about enjoying working guys over in a more brutal session. Definitely wish we were closer. I would enjoy meeting you and being your punching bag sometime.
Sometimes I just need that brutal workover from a good guy who enjoys dishing it out.

I would say we are sadsts as we enjoy giving pain. If we enjoy receiving that makes us masochists or at least masochistic.