My impression of 10th planet is that there is generally a huge emphasis on leg locks and trendy inversion moves. Therefore I think it is really only good for young practitioners. For older BJJ folks (30s and up), I suggest a more basic ground game which will be applicable for your entire life, not just while you are highly athletic and super flexible. Of course this may vary from school to school, so what's true here in Austin may be different elsewhere.
I’m much older, and I’ve not felt having to avoid them. I have lots of fun learning their moves and being active. The speed and agility ends up making you up your game and keeps you feeling young!
You may feel great now, but I've been doing BJJ and judo for over 60 years, and those inversions catch up to you in a big way. I see guys in their late 30s and 40s get serious back and neck injuries a LOT from them. And it only takes one bad stack or unexpected response from your opponent and you're off the mat for months.
In the gi, you learn techniques that you can’t necessarily translate in no gi, but doing both allows you to experience the concepts and in some cases apply certain moves in no gi or visa versa. In gi, you can also use parts of the gi as choking apparatuses and can use their gi against them to slow them down on the mat.
From a close and body contact perspective both offer some advantages in my experience. In gi, I love it when I am shirtless and my opponent is too, because in many instances, our belts fall off or we choose to throw it to one side after several sweaty rounds and we play heavy with tons of skin on skin or face to chest contact making it a bit more erotic especially if a guy is hairy. In no gi, there is a faster game involved, and we move more fluid, while in some cases, we can loose our shirts at will altogether and experience more fun and challenging rolls because we are sweating like pigs. Oh, wonder if pigs sweat! Lol.
BJJ was traditionally practiced wearing the gi, the garment used in many martial arts. This provides grip points, and some of the moves rely on the gi. No gi BJJ players usually wear a rash guard and fight shorts, or in some cases, just shorts. There is no clothing to grip, so some of the moves are a little different. Many guys train in both.
I think no gi is closer to what we think of as traditional wrestling, but of course it has submission holds. No gi has been growing rapidly.
Years back I trained in traditional Japanese Jiu jitsu, so I have experience with the gi. I much prefer rolling no gi. It just feels more natural to me.
I've decided to leave my current dojo (after starting 6 months ago) due to a number of issues.
I'm interested in training no gi only (as I have been doing), and that's the focus of the 10th Planet system. But I don't want to get burned and waste more time.
Most places seem to offer no gi now, but I think for most of them its not their focus.
I'm in Chicago, but 10th Planet is all over. Any other recommendations specific to Chicago would be appreciated.
TxWrestle (48 )
1/27/2024 5:52 PMMy impression of 10th planet is that there is generally a huge emphasis on leg locks and trendy inversion moves. Therefore I think it is really only good for young practitioners. For older BJJ folks (30s and up), I suggest a more basic ground game which will be applicable for your entire life, not just while you are highly athletic and super flexible. Of course this may vary from school to school, so what's true here in Austin may be different elsewhere.
bjjgrappler (11)
1/27/2024 9:41 PM(In reply to this)
I’m much older, and I’ve not felt having to avoid them. I have lots of fun learning their moves and being active. The speed and agility ends up making you up your game and keeps you feeling young!
TxWrestle (48 )
1/28/2024 12:49 AM(In reply to this)
You may feel great now, but I've been doing BJJ and judo for over 60 years, and those inversions catch up to you in a big way. I see guys in their late 30s and 40s get serious back and neck injuries a LOT from them. And it only takes one bad stack or unexpected response from your opponent and you're off the mat for months.
bjjgrappler (11)
1/27/2024 5:26 AMI’ve trained no gi at 10th and attended various open mats. Their lessons and approach are solid.
eljes (0)
1/27/2024 2:36 PM(In reply to this)
A novice here, just getting into BJJ, what’s gi? what's the diff between gi and non gi in training. Looking for a dojo, that’s why m asking
Thx!
bjjgrappler (11)
1/27/2024 9:55 PM(In reply to this)
In the gi, you learn techniques that you can’t necessarily translate in no gi, but doing both allows you to experience the concepts and in some cases apply certain moves in no gi or visa versa. In gi, you can also use parts of the gi as choking apparatuses and can use their gi against them to slow them down on the mat.
From a close and body contact perspective both offer some advantages in my experience. In gi, I love it when I am shirtless and my opponent is too, because in many instances, our belts fall off or we choose to throw it to one side after several sweaty rounds and we play heavy with tons of skin on skin or face to chest contact making it a bit more erotic especially if a guy is hairy. In no gi, there is a faster game involved, and we move more fluid, while in some cases, we can loose our shirts at will altogether and experience more fun and challenging rolls because we are sweating like pigs. Oh, wonder if pigs sweat! Lol.
Hard2Hold (10 )
1/27/2024 7:23 PM(In reply to this)
BJJ was traditionally practiced wearing the gi, the garment used in many martial arts. This provides grip points, and some of the moves rely on the gi. No gi BJJ players usually wear a rash guard and fight shorts, or in some cases, just shorts. There is no clothing to grip, so some of the moves are a little different. Many guys train in both.
I think no gi is closer to what we think of as traditional wrestling, but of course it has submission holds. No gi has been growing rapidly.
Years back I trained in traditional Japanese Jiu jitsu, so I have experience with the gi. I much prefer rolling no gi. It just feels more natural to me.
eljes (0)
1/27/2024 9:06 PM(In reply to this)
Thx! I get it know.
I tend to sweat a lot, I think I will cook myself on the gi
BJJguy (13 )
1/26/2024 11:54 PMI’ve only ever heard positive/neutral things about the level of 10P gyms.
There are a lot of great gyms in Chicago.
A few years ago we did a camp at Vianna Brothers. There have also been many open mats there.
Hard2Hold (10 )
1/27/2024 7:59 PM(In reply to this)
I’ve heard good things about Vianna. Not sure how strong they are in No gi.
Any others in Chicago I should check out?
Hard2Hold (10 )
1/26/2024 5:05 AMI've decided to leave my current dojo (after starting 6 months ago) due to a number of issues.
I'm interested in training no gi only (as I have been doing), and that's the focus of the 10th Planet system. But I don't want to get burned and waste more time.
Most places seem to offer no gi now, but I think for most of them its not their focus.
I'm in Chicago, but 10th Planet is all over. Any other recommendations specific to Chicago would be appreciated.